July 31, 2023

Unveiling the Brilliant Co-Host: Julie Falls - Let's Get Acquainted!

Unveiling the Brilliant Co-Host: Julie Falls - Let's Get Acquainted!

Meet Julie Falls, the "Educated Consumer" co-host of Facially Conscious Podcast, whose journey from a sun-damaged Miami native to skincare detective makes her the perfect advocate for listeners. Growing up in the 60s and 70s with minimal sun protection, Julie's fair skin developed pre-cancerous conditions by her thirties. When a plastic surgeon revealed that sun damage could be reversible, Julie embarked on a decades-long quest to understand the science of skincare. Her methodical approach to researching products and procedures—from reading reviews to consulting trusted professionals—has made her a trusted resource for friends and estheticians alike. In this episode, Julie shares her investigative process, warns about skincare scams, and offers practical advice for building an effective routine.

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Unveiling the Brilliant Co-Host_ Julie Falls - Let's Get Acquainted!

Trina Renea  0:07  

Hey everyone, welcome to Facially Conscious. I'm Trina Renea – a Medically Trained Master Esthetician here in Los Angeles, and I'm sitting with my rockstar co-host, Dr. Vicki Rapaport - a Board-Certified Dermatologist with practices in Beverly Hills and Culver City, Rebecca Gadberry – our Resident Skincare Scientists and Regulatory and Marketing Expert, and Julie Falls – our Educated Consumer who is here to represent you. We are here to help you navigate the sometimes confusing and competitive world of skincare. Our mission is to provide you with insider knowledge on everything from product ingredients to medical procedures, lasers, fillers, and ever-changing trends. With our expert interviews with chemists, doctors, laser reps and estheticians, you'll be equipped to make informative decisions before investing in potentially expensive treatments. It's the wild west out there, so let's make it easier for you, one episode at a time. Are you ready to discover the latest and greatest skincare secrets? Tune in and let us be your go to girls for all things facially conscious. Let's dive in.

Good morning, everybody. How you doing today?

 

Julie Falls  1:30  

Good morning.

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  1:31  

Excellent. I’m doing great.

 

Rebecca Gadberry  1:32  

Good morning. Yeah, it's nice to be back in the studio.

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  1:36  

Great. You all look absolutely gorgeous.

 

Julie Falls  1:38  

Everyone’s skin looks really pretty today. 

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  1:41  

And she's got the lipstick on, Rebecca?

 

Rebecca Gadberry  1:43  

Thank you. Yes, we’re recording now for our Instagram. I live the farthest away everybody. Sometimes it takes me two hours to get into the studio. And I don't like to get up early in the morning. And we have to be here at 9:30 which means I have to be up, do my hair, put on my makeup because we're now recording. So, today I said – well I will put a hat on and everybody will be okay with it. 

 

Trina Renea  2:15  

They will. 

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  2:17  

You're forgiven. We are happy to see your hat.

 

Rebecca Gadberry  2:17  

Thank you.

 

Trina Renea  2:21  

So, today we are doing an Unveiling the Brilliant Co-Host Episode to get acquainted with our co-hosts. So, today we're talking to Julie Falls. So, I just wanted to tell you a little bit about Julie. So, she grew up in Miami and got lots and lots of sun with no sunscreen tons and tons before she eventually came to LA where she got more sun and she ended up moving here to Los Angeles and working in the entertainment industry with her entertainment industry husband as well and she does acting and voice work here in LA. And she got into the skincare realm because her skin started showing some sun damage. So, she spoke to a plastic surgeon who guided her to and told her that it could be reversible if she was started taking care of her skin. So, she was like … what? Reversible?

 

Rebecca Gadberry  3:29  

I have a question. How old were you when that happened?

 

Julie Falls  3:32  

Probably like early 30s. 

 

Trina Renea  3:37  

You started seeing sun damage?

 

Julie Falls  3:38  

A little bit. I had some Mo done maybe not till later. But I was starting, I had a few pre-cancers things happen.

 

Trina Renea  3:46  

And Julie is very light. Yes. What is your nationality?

 

Julie Falls  3:51  

On my dad's side, I think there's Lithuanian, and on my mother's there's like Sephardic. Hers is a little more hearty. Dad was very fair. 

 

Trina Renea  4:06  

Yeah, so the fair skins get a little more skin cancers and things like that. So, you have to be much more careful with sunscreen and not burning over and over in your life, which is hard just walking outside.

 

Julie Falls  4:18  

I mean, I have to say, I grew up in you know, 60s 70s And I remember going on boating trips with my family and my dad would fish and we would fish. And you just kind of spent the day trying to like get out of the sun if you could with like a hat or putting a t-shirt over your head and going underneath, you know, the cabinet in the boat or, but I remember being burned a lot. We got burned. And I remember my parents were tennis players and we all start playing tennis, I remember, finally there was this product that we would use called pre sun or something.

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  5:01  

Oh, I love the smell of pre sun. It was like SPF 2, 4 and 8. 

 

Rebecca Gadberry  5:08  

… doubles your time in the sun.

 

Julie Falls  5:14  

Yeah. And also, when I was younger you really, you know, thought you were very beautiful if you were tan. I mean we all wanted to be tan and I would get freckled, burned freckled. Eventually I would get a little bit of a tan, but so I think I was relatively young though, honestly, like 18-19, and I remember hanging out at the beach in south beach in Miami, and thinking, I don't think this is great. I think I'm going to stop this. But trust me, you know, there have been a lot of damage as a kid.

 

Rebecca Gadberry  5:52  

I think they say 80% of the damage to the skin is done by the sun before the age of 18. And you also have read melanin, which my husband's calls weak ass melanin, because it doesn't protect at all. Yeah, no, there isn't. So, you're much more likely to turn red immediately because the melanin is protecting you.

 

Julie Falls  6:14  

Yeah, but I was kind of fascinated when somebody said – Oh, it actually can be reversible. 

 

Trina Renea  6:21  

So right, you went on a journey to discover what you could do to help your skin. And so, through the course of time, you've become very educated, and one thing I learned about you and you started coming to me for facials is every single month you would be like, ‘Have you heard of…’, ‘do you know about…?’ And I would, it was fun for me because I would go on a research binge where I would find out, which we discovered together some pretty crazy stuff out.

 

Julie Falls  6:50  

Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't know if it's pure vanity. But I think I got excited by the fact that, you know, you could grow older, gracefully if you just had beautiful skin, I would see older women with beautiful skin and I thought, okay, that's going to be me. And, you know, the whole plastic surgery thing kind of freaks me out. And I'll just really have beautiful skin. I'll be an older woman with a shin yawn, and beautiful skin. 

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  7:28  

What is a shin yawn?

 

Julie Falls  7:30  

Older women with very long hair, and they put it in a shin yawn and have gorgeous skin.

 

Trina Renea  7:35  

Yeah, with really big sunglasses. 

 

Julie Falls  7:37  

Yes, you got it. You got the whole of the image. So, I did find this a woman in LA, a friend of mine had been seeing her and she had worked at a dermatologists office. And then she opened up her own studio. She was an esthetician. And she was very ahead of the curve. And she was the first one that I know of who was doing LED lights, and glycolic peels and microdermabrasion and I mean, it was kind of magical what you could do for your skin. And I kind of early on had people asking me, you know, hey, what are you doing? What do you recommend? And then I got more curious and I started you know, in those days, there was no internet, but you know, reading and talking to people and asking, you know, what are you doing, finding good doctors and you know, kind of led to a hobby.

 

Trina Renea  8:43  

And then we met, met through Dr. Vicki Rapaport.

 

Julie Falls  8:45  

My brother. We all have rosacea. My brother was looking for help with his rosacea. I think he found Dr. Marvin Rapoport through his insurance I want to say, and loved him, and that’s Dr. Vicki's daddy, immediately was getting help with his rosacea. I think I might have saw Dr. Marvin once and then somehow got turned on to Vicki who really quite quick quickly helped me with the rosacea, to the point where the esthetician I was seeing at the time used to call me and say I have somebody in my chair and they have some of the issues you have with rosacea. What do they do? Where do they go what? And it just became a thing. It was like I was helping, Dr. Vicki was the rosacea whisperer.

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  9:44  

Well, and that's a testament to your knowledge base and maybe also the way you approach things. All these estheticians are coming to you. Trina was intrigued by your questions and that's aition was calling you in a patient was on the table. That's pretty impressive. Did you ever think about medical school?

 

Julie Falls  10:01  

I love medicine. I really do. I'm fascinated by it. No, now that my life is almost over.

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  10:11  

Alternative students, you can be an alternative. Your life isn't almost over. You are just beginning.

 

Julie Falls  10:17  

But I really would be one that once they… like dermatology I could see but the other things that you would have to do like opening people up…no.

 

Trina Renea  10:28  

Can we just tell one funny story about the products that you were telling me about from somebody that was selling?

 

Julie Falls  10:37  

Let me just finish and say that, Vicki had a facialist in her office, and I wanted to try her. And that was Trina and I wasn't even doing that many facials in those days. I really wasn't. Oh, wait, wait, wait, no, I'm sorry. I made a mistake. I was already seeing somebody else who I was mentioning, the real pioneer. I left her because it turned into a bit of a freak show. She went to jail. She was injecting I think fillers and into people's faces that were not legal.

 

Rebecca Gadberry  11:20  

And she was an esthetician, not a derm.

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  11:24  

Did anybody, I mean did somebody get like really badly hurt? Is that why she went to jail or she just got discovered?

 

Julie Falls  11:28  

No. She was in and out. You know.

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  11:34  

Yikes. That's why you stopped seeing. 

 

Julie Falls  11:36  

She is still practicing. She's larger than life. It's a big force, this woman and her.

 

Trina Renea  11:42  

Can I say one more thing I know about her, and I won't. And if we have to cut it out, we can't. She also was working with a derm at the time who, I don't know if, I can't remember now if the derm died or went to jail, I'm not sure. But she took the clientele from office like they all took it. And that's where the other esthetician came from that you were seeing after her. And they got in trouble for that as well because they illegally stole the …

 

Julie Falls  12:16  

Oh, yeah. There's a lot of not nice things.

 

Rebecca Gadberry  12:19  

We can cut that part … our industry. 

 

Julie Falls  12:23  

So, I took a break and then was looking for a new facials, for sure. And then I found Trina and I thought this person is so knowledgeable. You're so incredible and so knowledgeable and was like… 

 

Trina Renea  12:40  

A lot of that had to do with working for Dr. Vicki. 

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  12:42  

Well, Julie, you met your match then, it sounds like.

 

Julie Falls  12:45  

I did. Then Trina told me she had her own business. Was she poaching business away from you? 

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  12:49  

We knew. It was all open communication. 

 

Trina Renea  12:53  

No, we're doing insurance facials, and we had like over 100 people on the waitlist that couldn't get in. So, when they couldn't get in, sometimes she would send people and say just go over there for a month and sign up for next month and so they would send people. 

 

Julie Falls  13:11  

I was so gamed to come and then I don't I must have sent you 300 people, you know, everybody was…

 

Trina Renea  13:18  

She actually convinced me to get an oxygen machine. Because she was so in love with oxygen. And she was like – Please, you have to have it. I'm like it's a gimmick. And I would just like throw it off for so long. But then, of course, I did research and research and research. And then I finally was like – Alright, I can see. But I had to buy the right one, and it had to be… it was very expensive. And because it had to actually really push the oxygen under the skin not just below the surface and stuff like that.

 

Julie Falls  13:51  

So, I think the other story you wanted me to talk about was a woman who was selling these products and it was supposed to, like change your skin, take 20 years off, like, you know, too good to be true. And a friend of mine drove out to see her and got her little dog in pony show I think in Malibu and next thing I know she was trying to sell us each about $5,000 worth of product. And if you don't get this, this one won't work. You have to use the five-product and then there's a mask and then that did it and my friend and I were kind of gullible and kind of wanting to be you know cutting edge, and I remember driving home or like – should we? Should we get it? and laughing and I think I came in and told Trina about it.

 

Trina Renea  14:47  

She told me and I was like, what? Oh my God, that's insane. I'm like give me this person's name. I'm going to figure this out. I'm going to figure out what she's doing up there. I'm like, how do you know she's not using some crazy weird stuff that … who knows where she's getting it from? Like there's no way and she's not even a doctor an esthetician…

 

Julie Falls  15:11  

I think she's still in business, I think so. The packaging looked like it was kind of like a DIY.

 

Trina Renea  15:22  

She would buy her own packaging. So, then you know I didn't some investigation and found out that she was actually buying these products from another brand, a big brand and repackaging them and the brand she was buying it from as a great brand and does an amazing job on the face if you do their how you're supposed to.

 

Julie Falls  15:46  

Steps. Did you tell the brand about this? And what did they do?

 

Trina Renea  15:51  

Yes. Well, they are getting the money. So I mean, I don't know about right now, this was years ago, but the rep was like – Well she's getting such a big commission from that person. Because you know, every time she sells her all the bulk products, she gets a commission on everything that that person buys. 

 

Rebecca Gadberry  16:11  

So, she didn't cut her off?

 

Trina Renea  16:13  

I don't think she did. 

 

Rebecca Gadberry  16:15  

Well, you know, when you do something like, when you take a product and you put it in your own package, if you have a problem, the insurance won't cover it.

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  16:26  

I'm sure that lady didn't have insurance coverage.

 

Julie Falls  16:33  

She was probably scamming people.

 

Trina Renea  16:34  

I don’t know for sure what she had did with the information but she did say I take commission on that.

 

Julie Falls  16:45  

I don't remember when I think about what I did buy from her. It didn't resemble anything of that other company to be honest with you.

 

Trina Renea  16:55  

So, if you looked back at my, now that you know.

 

Rebecca Gadberry  16:57  

Is this what inspired you to become more of a skincare detective? Because she definitely investigate everything. 

 

Julie Falls  17:06  

Yeah, I do. You know, I’m little skeptical. 

 

Trina Renea  17:10  

She tries, she dabbles.

 

Rebecca Gadberry  17:13  

She dabbles so you at home don't have to. 

 

Julie Falls  17:17  

Yeah, I’m skeptical, I definitely can be very gullible. I have definitely fallen for my share of marketing and advertising. 

 

Trina Renea  17:28  

And she has a big following with women who go – Okay, is it good? Should I get it? Because they know she's tried it.

 

Rebecca Gadberry  17:35  

How does she know, what goes through your mind when you're looking at a new procedure? Or a new product? How do you investigate?

 

Julie Falls  17:44  

Okay, so I really always want to read about reviews. So, I will Google, the product, the laser, whatever. And then I'll say, reviews, and then I start reading. And then I have Dr. Vecchia. Dr. Wang, I have you Rebecca and Trina and, you know, I just do my research. Sometimes I'll try things.

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  18:12  

So, can we talk about reviews, though, you know, we were talking about off-camera. How all these, there was a new investigation that showed a lot of these product reviews. I don't know if it was cosmetics in particular aren't just completely generated by the computer and are fake. How does it go? Even before AI, it was a buzzword. It was like maybe two months ago. But yes, it’s basically AI. 

 

Julie Falls  18:38  

There are a lot of beauty articles, where like, for instance, I was curious about the Lima laser the other day. So, I just started reading, you know, Vanity Fair, allure, Vogue, you know, then some of those reviews were very on the Lima website. We've kind of honest, yeah, they had the good and the bad. And then talking to people, you know, I have a friend who's been using it and you know, she swears by it, and I haven't bought it.

 

Trina Renea  19:16  

We shouldn't be talking about it. But is this something you can buy and bring home? 

 

Julie Falls  19:20  

Yeah, to do home laser.

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  19:22  

Oh, home device. And probably not that power, Julie.

 

Julie Falls  19:27  

No, exactly. And I heard you say that about.

 

Trina Renea  19:30  

Any home device is never going to be super powerful. And the problem with I feel like with home devices is you have to do them so frequently. And people aren't consistent. Like they say I'm going to do it. But you have to follow the directions. If they say three minutes a day. You have to do it three minutes a day to see a result and if you're doing it a couple days a week, you're not going to get the result and there's nobody that's going to do that three minutes a day for more than two to three weeks, maybe a month, they'll say they're going to stick to it. But then I see them again because I have a lot of clients who buy a lot at home things because it's, you know, they, it gets sold very well on the internet and their devices sit in their drawer and they don't use them. Then they come and get facials because I have strong devices that can actually make a difference once a month and you don't have to do it every single day for three minutes or 10 minutes. Yeah, you're all over your face in different parts. Yeah, you know, so anyways.

 

Julie Falls  20:32  

Yeah, I there's also some influencers and some wonderful people will have big platforms that are at big institutions and doctors and I follow and you know.

 

Trina Renea  20:49  

You have a passion for it, you enjoy it, like people enjoy cooking. People enjoy planting

 

Rebecca Gadberry  20:58  

Julie is skincare…

 

Trina Renea  21:01  

Alright, so if you wanted to give advice to somebody out there that's listening to this, and they have the same passion as you and they want to start jumping into this to help their skin? Can you give some advice to them about how to do it in a way that's more like successful journey?

 

Julie Falls  21:24  

Yeah, I would say, take your time, find a really good doctor, find a really good esthetician. Talk to your friends, read and, you know, definitely surf the internet. but take your time with things that you know, I have a very dear friend who goes, I think to both of you. And, you know, a few years ago, she just said, what can I do? What can I do? She was not interested in any plastic surgery, what can I do? I just want to look better, I want to look younger. and just simply starting to use a brightener in your face, you know, once you're at a certain age, or even if you're young, just little tiny steps, and then she was suddenly interested in lasers. And then I say, go slowly, go slowly.

 

Trina Renea  22:20  

Yeah, and I do agree. Like, if you have a good dermatologist and esthetician you can talk to and run things by before buying, like, don't be so quick to buy. You know, just wait, do a little more research, talk to those people that you respect to know the industry and just get opinions before you start spending a lot of money. 

 

Julie Falls  22:46  

Yeah, and there are some wonderful, legitimate people out there. There's a makeup that I love and I use, they have a concierge service. There's a woman who's part of their Concierge Team, she's in New York. You can go online and get consultations. You know, there are skincare consultations, there are cosmetic consultations, just take your time and do your homework.

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  23:12  

And on that take your time bandwidth, from the dermatology point of view, be consistent. So, when your friend said to you, Julie, what can I do? What I hear is ‘what works fast and furiously and is magic.’ There's nothing faster there is nothing furious, there are things that are magic, but it takes time, months after months, years after years, be consistent, if it's not working for you be consistent with a different product. But there isn't something out there that's going to change your face in one week. 

 

Rebecca Gadberry  23:45  

And you know if they want it fast and furious, that's where your irritation comes in. Irritation is the bottom line of aging, acne, everything that goes wrong with the skin. So again, take your time. 

 

Trina Renea  23:56  

Yes, because Fast and Furious means like you said, inflammation, and that's not good. So, I have a listener’s question today, her name is Tai and she asked. – I was listening to the rosacea episode. And it was amazing information. I have a question about seborrheic dermatitis. The rosacea episode talked about foods and meds that will trigger rosacea. Are there any meds and food or fruit that will do the same thing for dermatitis?

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  24:31  

Rebecca, you and I will take this one on? 

 

Rebecca Gadberry  24:33  

Yes, I think so. We've been talking about it.

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  24:36  

I would say one of the best things about doing this podcast is that we have to prepare for the episode obviously we have the knowledge but we go the extra mile and then when we get these questions from the listeners, we want to go the extra mile because we want to be really sure to answer them correctly. So, my original response to that was I don't tell my sebderm patients - seborrheic dermatitis, the dry, scaly, red, inflamed skin, either patches in the scalp and the glabella brows, sides of the nose, in the beard sometimes on the chest. So, they're very chronic very stubborn.

 

Trina Renea  25:12  

Sorry, really quick, just so we can explain to the listeners. How do you know that's not eczema, psoriasis? Why would it be seborrheic dermatitis? 

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  25:21  

Because a dermatologist just knows. I mean, a patient might not know but we just see it in seconds and know, it just looks very different than eczema and psoriasis. It's a greasy scale comes from like a sort of an oily area that dries up in this and it's a scale from oil basically. So, the answer to the question that Rebecca and I were discussing, is that there's not a lot out there. However, as a dermatologist, we do know that people who are immunosuppressed, get a lot of Seb derm. So, anything that's suppressing your immune system stress, it may be cortisone, HIV, you know, obviously avoiding those things would be great. Yeah, and avoid inflammation. But this listener wants food, you know, recommendations, which Rebecca talked about earlier with me off, I'm would you like to discuss that?

 

Rebecca Gadberry  26:11  

Yeah, you know, the, okay, the Malassezia. FurFur is a yeast right. And it's the main component of seborrheic dermatitis, which is when you're healthy, your body can control it, because it's a natural yeast on your skin, it lives on everybody. But when you're under stress, or when other things are attacking your immune system or lowering it, it takes over and it can start to multiply. And like Dr. V is saying, you know, you're going to see redness and oily patches, you can see it in your eyebrows. Wherever you have hair, it predominantly is going to be or in your cheek area on your chest area. Hopefully you don't have a really hairy chest unless your man, unless your man, so we want to avoid things that have yeast in them. And we call that the yeast elimination diet. And what that is, is just not eating breads that rise with yeast. So leaven bread, cheeses, wine, beer, excessive hollow carbohydrates, like your white breads or your white sugars.

 

Trina Renea  27:24  

She specifically also said fruit which is full of sugar. And so, all of those things turn to sugar, which feed the yeast, right? 

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  27:31  

Well, those are different sugars. Those are more like the processed white sugars are much more inflammatory, producing than just the natural sugars you find in fruits and vegetables. 

 

Rebecca Gadberry  27:42  

Yeah, your body can handle that better. And so, I was just going to make a distinction between carbohydrates because people think I need to get rid of carbohydrates. No. vegetables and fruits are carbohydrates. They're very good for you. They don't act in the same way as these bleached sugars and bleached flowers do, and avoid other things that may have fungus like, I don't know about mushrooms. It says fungus on the…we’re talking about some information that was posted on the Veterans Administration website. And Vicki and I were both very impressed with it. You can look it up for yourself, you know, seborrheic dermatitis, Veterans Administration, they go into it in quite detail. They also recommend the anti-inflammatory diet, which is also called the Mediterranean style diet. And then again, it's helping to counteract inflammation, not just throughout the body, but also on the skin. Eating more Omega3 fatty acids that are flax seeds, and walnuts and salmon and mackerel and sardines, having more biotin from egg yolk and salmon and liver and avocado, bananas, carrots, and cauliflower. So, it's not just foods that can exacerbate it, but foods can also help control it. And I want to make sure that we talk about that. And then drugs that can exacerbate it. Now, keep in mind, these drugs don't cause it but they do affect your immune system and that can be an issue. So again, if you are positive for HIV AIDS, your dermatologist is one of the first doctors that could identify that you're positive. Now, just because you have separate dermatitis doesn't mean you're positive for HIV AIDS, so don't freak out because it happens to a lot of different people. And also, if you have had an organ transplant, or you're over the age of 60, examples of some of the anti-cancer drugs that are out there, like the interferon A and the… I can't pronounce some of these but refer to the Veterans Administration website. So that's about it for us as far as our answers. concerned, there's not a lot that goes on with common drugs and seborrheic dermatitis. Do any shampoos or facial cleansers hit help with that?

 

Dr. Vicki Rapaport  30:14  

Yeah, a lot of the dandruff shampoos that are out there. So, Head and Shoulders you can use on your face if you have a septum on your face. There's Nizoral, which is an antifungal shampoo and a wash. There's obviously prescription strength ketoconazole shampoo. And then we will do topical antifungals as well, sometimes even a little bit of topical steroid to calm down the inflammation of the Seb derm. But again, like keeping the immune system up and keeping the barrier up, it's also very important to moisturize. Because even though it is a greasy skin, and a lot of these people have seb derm do have oily skin. They sometimes shy away from moisturizers, but don't shy away from moisturizers, keep that barrier out.

 

Rebecca Gadberry  30:54  

Yeah, then if you want more on barrier, we've got a lot on our blog, and also past episodes about barrier. And one less thing Tea Tree Oil, which is the Australian grade of tea tree oil, we're not talking about just any. Tea tree oil from Australia, because it's a prominent export from Australia, they have a lot of money riding on whether it works or not. There are actually specifics on how the balance of the phytochemicals in the tea tree are balanced when they produce the oil. So, if you have an Australian grade tea tree oil that you can use in a product, that works on this Malassezia just like the Head and Shoulders does very effective, but it's not a drug. And it can be very irritating. So be careful. So, you want to use an anti-inflammatory with it. And it shouldn't be higher than one or 2%. It shouldn't be a huge amount.

 

Trina Renea  31:49  

Like don't go and buy straight tea tree and put it on. 

 

Julie Falls  31:53  

I think that's such good information. Thank you so much.

 

Rebecca Gadberry  31:56  

Thank you. So, and thank you for asking that. 

 

Julie Falls  32:01  

Thank you. We love our listeners questions.

 

Trina Renea  32:06  

And if you have more questions, just send them our way. We will be happy to answer them. You can send it either to our email at info@faciallyconscious.com, or you can send us a DM on Instagram wherever you want, Facebook. Rebecca, would you like to give our takeaway of the day?

 

Rebecca Gadberry  32:27  

Today we talk to Julie Falls and she's one of our favorite people in the whole world. I think what I learned from her is that if you have a bad experience with skincare just keep pursuing your quest to better skin. Don't let it deter you, get better at detection. Don't walk away from it because it's definitely worth it.

 

Trina Renea  32:56  

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